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The mighty iPhone vs the Nokia n900
February 4, 2010
After seeing a slashdot post about people running OS X on the Nokia n900, I read some more info about the n900. It seemed like great hardware, and was debian-linux based, so it seemed like a good platform to play with. Enticed, I found it on Nokia's site, complete with a 14 day return policy.

I should mention, I have/use an iPhone 3GS. Apple ends up pissing me off to no end, but I really end up liking the 3GS. It's a great phone/browser/apprunner/notetaker/calendar/ipod/etc. If it wasn't locked down so tight, I would like it even more. So really I end up disliking the idea of the iPhone, but liking it in reality.

The n900 is pretty much the opposite -- the idea is great. Having a phone I can ssh into and install g++ and make on and build stuff and run on, is great. On paper, everything's there. This is what I found: So I sent the thing back. It didn't last 24 hours. The dealing with root fs, I could get past that. The lack of AT&T 3G support, that made the decision easier. I really tried. I wanted to like it.
6 Comments:

Posted by david on Fri 05 Feb 2010 at 18:16 from 118.208.150.x

So was the primary reason you didn't end up keeping it /mostly/ the AT&T thing? The other comments you have seem to be generally positive (except for the root fs issue).

Posted by Justin on Fri 05 Feb 2010 at 18:53 from 64.81.54.x

Well, had it had 3G support, I probably would have given it a good week or so, to see what parts of the OS you could modify. For example, could I improve windowing manager's UI? It would have been worth trying to see, if it supported my 3G.

Posted by david on Fri 05 Feb 2010 at 19:23 from 118.208.150.x

Sorry, I should have pointed out I'm in Australia so not really familiar with what you do and don't get - I assumed that there was something magical about AT&T that made their 3G service better/more appealing/faster/awesomer. But it sounds like you just don't get 3G service at all if you're not with AT&T?!

Posted by Justin on Fri 05 Feb 2010 at 22:31 from 64.81.54.x

Actually the phone supports "standard" 3G service, but apparently AT&T's is somehow different. I'm not quite sure why it didn't work, but apparently it's some known issue.

Posted by david on Sat 06 Feb 2010 at 00:46 from 118.208.150.x

Ah, fair enough. I don't realllllyy get how all the magical mobile networks work; I /think/ here in .au it's all somewhat standardised so all the carriers have to offer the same services.

The N900 is not actually available for sale in Australia, most depressingly - as seems to be the case in the US, most of the networks appear to be terrified of the liberties that it provides in terms of software so are refusing to touch it - and most people here seem to only buy phones on a contract so they feel "free".

I'm hopefully heading to the US in a couple weeks for GDC and I'm dead keen to pick up an N900, though I really want to get my hands on first. Found your feedback to be really interesting and backed up a lot of what I already thought (which for me are all the reasons I want one of the freaking things).

Posted by Lino on Fri 24 Sep 2010 at 10:50 from 83.165.19.x

What about android? You should love Samsung Galaxy S for both hardware and OS. I own a HTC Magic which is great but it's getting a bit old already.

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